Epstein Judge Stands By Holding ‘Essential’ Victims Hearing | MSNBC


NBC NEWS CORRESPONDENT SARA FITZPATRICK IS OUTSIDE THE FITZPATRICK IS OUTSIDE THE COURTHOUSE. COURTHOUSE. AND MSNBC LEGAL CONTRIBUTOR AND MSNBC LEGAL CONTRIBUTOR KATIE FANG. KATIE FANG. IT’S GOOD TO HAVE ALL OF YOU. IT’S GOOD TO HAVE ALL OF YOU. SARA, WHAT’S HAPPENING INSIDE SARA, WHAT’S HAPPENING INSIDE THAT COURTROOM RIGHT NOW? THAT COURTROOM RIGHT NOW? WHAT DO WE KNOW? WHAT DO WE KNOW?>>SO RIGHT NOW WE’RE JUST GOING>>SO RIGHT NOW WE’RE JUST GOING THROUGH SOME INTRODUCTORY THROUGH SOME INTRODUCTORY REMARKS. REMARKS. JUDGE BERMAN MADE A COUPLE OF JUDGE BERMAN MADE A COUPLE OF UNUSUAL STATEMENTS. UNUSUAL STATEMENTS. FIRSTLY HE MENTIONED THAT HE FIRSTLY HE MENTIONED THAT HE FOUND EPSTEIN’S DEATH BY SUICIDE FOUND EPSTEIN’S DEATH BY SUICIDE SHOCKING AND NOT WHAT ANYONE HAD SHOCKING AND NOT WHAT ANYONE HAD EXPECTED. EXPECTED. SECONDLY, HE CALLED OUT A MEDIA SECONDLY, HE CALLED OUT A MEDIA REPORT THAT APPARENTLY APPEARED REPORT THAT APPARENTLY APPEARED THIS MORNING AND SAID THAT THIS THIS MORNING AND SAID THAT THIS HEARING WAS UNNECESSARY AND HEARING WAS UNNECESSARY AND WOULD ONLY ADD DRAMA TO KIND OF WOULD ONLY ADD DRAMA TO KIND OF THE DISCUSSION AROUND EPSTEIN’S THE DISCUSSION AROUND EPSTEIN’S DEATH. DEATH. AND HE CALLED THAT HEFS WAS– HE AND HE CALLED THAT HEFS WAS– HE INCREDIBLY DISTURBED BY THAT INCREDIBLY DISTURBED BY THAT STATEMENT AND STILL SHOCKED BY STATEMENT AND STILL SHOCKED BY IT AND SAID THIS HEARING WAS IT AND SAID THIS HEARING WAS ESSENTIAL. ESSENTIAL. IT WAS A MATTER OF RESPECT FOR IT WAS A MATTER OF RESPECT FOR THE VICTIMS AND A MATTER OF LAW. THE VICTIMS AND A MATTER OF LAW. HE SAID IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT HE SAID IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT THESE VICTIMS WERE TREATED WITH THESE VICTIMS WERE TREATED WITH DIGNITY AND THERE’S EXACTLY DIGNITY AND THERE’S EXACTLY WHAT’S GOING TO HAPPEN TODAY. WHAT’S GOING TO HAPPEN TODAY. WE’RE TOLD THERE ARE UP TO 30 WE’RE TOLD THERE ARE UP TO 30 WOMEN WHO ARE EXPECTED TO SPEAK. WOMEN WHO ARE EXPECTED TO SPEAK. THEY WERE INVITED LAST WEEK BY THEY WERE INVITED LAST WEEK BY THE COURT. THE COURT. AND THEY WERE TOLD THAT THEY AND THEY WERE TOLD THAT THEY COULD EITHER SPEAK PERSONALLY OR COULD EITHER SPEAK PERSONALLY OR THEY COULD HAVE THEIR ATTORNEYS THEY COULD HAVE THEIR ATTORNEYS READ A STATEMENT ON THEIR READ A STATEMENT ON THEIR BEHALF. BEHALF. AND WE’RE TOLD THAT IT’S GOING AND WE’RE TOLD THAT IT’S GOING TO BE SOME COMBINATION OF THE TO BE SOME COMBINATION OF THE TWO. TWO. THERE MAY BE SOME LAST MINUTE THERE MAY BE SOME LAST MINUTE CHANGES. CHANGES. THESE WOMEN ARE INCREDIBLY THESE WOMEN ARE INCREDIBLY NERVOUS ABOUT SPEAKING IN OPEN NERVOUS ABOUT SPEAKING IN OPEN COURT, THEY TOLD ME, BUT THEY COURT, THEY TOLD ME, BUT THEY WANT TO SAY THEIR PEACE AND THEY WANT TO SAY THEIR PEACE AND THEY HAVE A COUPLE THINGS THEY REALLY HAVE A COUPLE THINGS THEY REALLY WANT TO SAY. WANT TO SAY. FIRST OF ALL THEY’RE GOING TO FIRST OF ALL THEY’RE GOING TO DETAIL THEIR PAIN AND TRAUMA AND DETAIL THEIR PAIN AND TRAUMA AND JUST THE INCREDIBLE IMPACT THAT JUST THE INCREDIBLE IMPACT THAT JEFFREY EPSTEIN’S CONDUCT HAD ON JEFFREY EPSTEIN’S CONDUCT HAD ON THEIR LIVES, SOME OF THEM AS THEIR LIVES, SOME OF THEM AS YOUNG AS 14 YEARS OLD. YOUNG AS 14 YEARS OLD. THE SECOND THING WE’RE GOING TO THE SECOND THING WE’RE GOING TO HEARSAY LOT OF ANGER AND HEARSAY LOT OF ANGER AND FRUSTRATION THAT EPSTEIN WAS FRUSTRATION THAT EPSTEIN WAS ABLE TO DIE BY SUICIDE LAST ABLE TO DIE BY SUICIDE LAST MONTH IN GOVERNMENT CUSTODY. MONTH IN GOVERNMENT CUSTODY. AND BECAUSE OF THAT, THESE AND BECAUSE OF THAT, THESE VICTIMS ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE VICTIMS ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THEIR MOMENT DIRECTLY TO HAVE THEIR MOMENT DIRECTLY FACING HIM IN COURT. FACING HIM IN COURT. THREE OF EPSTEIN’S ATTORNEYS ARE THREE OF EPSTEIN’S ATTORNEYS ARE IN COURT SO THEY WILL BE ABLE TO IN COURT SO THEY WILL BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THEM, BUT IT’S NOT THE SPEAK TO THEM, BUT IT’S NOT THE SAME AS SPEAKING DIRECTLY TO SAME AS SPEAKING DIRECTLY TO THEIR ACCUSER. THEIR ACCUSER. THIRD, I THINK WE’RE GOING TO THIRD, I THINK WE’RE GOING TO HEAR A LOT OF ANGER AND HEAR A LOT OF ANGER AND FRUSTRATION AND JUST GENUINE FRUSTRATION AND JUST GENUINE BEWILDERMENT THAT EPSTEIN’S BEWILDERMENT THAT EPSTEIN’S ALLEGED COCONSPIRATORS, OTHER ALLEGED COCONSPIRATORS, OTHER ADULTS WHO VICTIMS BELIEVE HAD ADULTS WHO VICTIMS BELIEVE HAD FULL KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT WAS GOING FULL KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT WAS GOING ON AND ENABLED IT. ON AND ENABLED IT. THAT THERE HAS BEEN NO CRIMINAL THAT THERE HAS BEEN NO CRIMINAL PROSECUTION OF THEM TO DATE. PROSECUTION OF THEM TO DATE. NOW, THE JUDGE HAS INDICATED NOW, THE JUDGE HAS INDICATED THAT THAT IS AN ONGOING THAT THAT IS AN ONGOING INVESTIGATION AND OF TREMENDOUS

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