Make Your Vegetable Garden Immune to Aphids and White Flies with Insect Frass

This is John Kohler with,
I have another exciting episode for you today, and today we’re at the National Heirloom
Expo, as you can see the sign’s up there, September 11, 12 and 13th. And for those of
you guys and girls that haven’t made it out to the Expo, what we’re going to do
today is a vendor round-up. So I really like to go around to the vendor booths to find
out the latest stuff, latest happening in garden tools, and ways to build your soil,
heirloom and different edible plants, and there’s been a lot here. So in this video
we’re going to go around the Grace Pavilion and show you guys some of the best booths
at the National Heirloom Expo. We’re going to walk inside the Grace Pavilion,
and the Grace Pavilion is where the majority of the vendor booths are, there’s also a
few other areas including outside in another hall that has more vendors, but this is where
the bulk and the majority of them are. Let’s go inside and check out my favorite vendors
that can help you grow more food. One of the reasons why I like the Heirloom
Expo is that there’s all different kind of vendors selling seeds and also plants,
and here’s actually a really cool one. You never know what each nursery or each plant
seller’s going to sell and they’re always [inaudible] to have that one plant that you
want. And I found one of those today, I’m really excited. This is actually Carmen’s
nursery, they do ship plants and they’re at And what I found today
was the standard what I thought was Cuban oregano, and this is the one that I actually
showed you guys as Cuban oregano, they also have a variegated variety of this, but today
I learned that it’s not really Cuban oregano, it’s actually called the menthol plant.
So this is the fake Cuban oregano, so I’m corrected now that I’ve learned the truth,
and here’s the real Cuban oregano right here. This is the real Cuban oregano, you
can see the leaf shape is totally different, it’s in the same, they’re related plants,
but totally different and I haven’t yet tasted this guy yet, but what I’m going
to do is I’m going to buy this guy and bring it home, and I’m going to taste it and maybe
it will taste better than this guy. These guys are definitely frost-tender so they don’t
like freezes, they do good in South Florida, somewhere like Hawaii or if you live somewhere
else then you’ve definitely got to keep them warm.
So the next booth I like a lot is this booth right here, it’s actually called Larner’s
Seeds, they’re a local company that produces seeds to offer of native plants. And now while
a lot of these are not edible, there are a few edibles, and I always want to encourage
you guys to actually grow native plants to your area that are edible. And sometimes it
is hard to find seeds even though they’re out in nature, so it’s cool when a company
like this can collect all the natives and then offer them to you, especially when they’re
edible. So the two varieties that they have that I want and that I’ve been looking for
actually, this one right here, this is actually called the peppermint candy flower, and this
is a claytona siberica, and this is actually related to the miner’s lettuce that I grow
every winter, so this is a different variety, so a different [inaudible]. I want to encourage
you guys to grow a lot of different varieties. This has actually a candy flower, so they
look really cool, they don’t taste like candy and they don’t taste like peppermint,
but they look really cool and they’re quite edible. The other one I’m going to pick
up today right here is actually called Red Maids. And this is a ground-hugging annual
wildflower under one inch tall with intense magenta petals, likes full sun, edible leaves
and seeds, and also the flowers, so these are two edible plants that you can grow that
will self-seed on their own because they’re native to this area. So growing edibles that
are native to your area is very important to find a local seed company or wild harvest
some seeds so you can grow more native edibles that are going to work well in your area.
If you want to learn more about Larner’s Seeds, you can visit their website,
So now we’re outside, I’m going to show you guys one of my favorite booths outside
actually, it’s called Self-Watering Seed Pods, it’s actually orta. Now what does
Orta mean? Well Orta in Portuguese means kitchen garden, in English we have to say kitchen
garden but that’s the word. So I think everybody should definitely have a kitchen garden, and
this pod actually makes it really easy to do just that, especially if you’re in an
apartment, condo and don’t have enough space, this is a really cool invention. So check
this out right here, here’s a little sign and check it out, it says “Ignore your baby
plants and they’ll be okay.” And this design all stem from actually the gardener
that’s made this design up would lose her plants because she’d forget to water, she’s
so busy in her life and all kinds of stuff, so she basically researched self-watering
containers and figured out how to do it naturally out of ceramic, and she hand-makes each and
every one of these guys. So check it out, the coolest ones are like this guy the six
pack. So what this is, this is basically a ceramic, hand-crafted that basically has a
reservoir here you fill with water, and it’s glazed so the water doesn’t drip out the
outside, but it’s not glazed on the inside so the plants absorb the water through the
glaze. And the coolest thing is you could literally, this is a six pack right and these
are little tomatoes, you could pick these guys up and now they’re ready for transplanting.
Now these guys can get expensive if you’re trying to do this on a production scale, but
if you don’t have too much this is something that’s really reusable so you don’t have
to use the plastic stuff anymore, and this will literally last forever if you take care
of it, so I like it a lot. In addition besides the six packs which I think I like the most
they have a little three pack here for a small kitchen herb garden, or probably more functional
is actually this guy here, has a nice larger area, and once again, the self-watering chamber
so that you can just fill it up, and it could literally last a week or so without having
to fill the water and maybe every week just fill it up and your plant will continue to
grow. This is great to grow herbs in your window sill so that you could have fresh herbs,
especially through the winter, instead of having to buy them. To learn more and to purchase
this product you want to visit the website Orta Kitchen Garden, that’s O R T A
Another booth I like a lot here is actually the Yes on 37 Right to Know. And check it
out here, “Do You Eat Genetically Engineered Foods?” Many of you guys right now might
be eating genetically engineered food and not even know it if you’re buying things
that are processed foods from the supermarket, major crops like corn and soy and sugar beets
are being genetically modified and they’re processing these foods into other foods and
then they get into many processed and packaged foods that you would buy in the store, but
they’re not labeled so you don’t know. Luckily here in California they’re going
to have Prop 37, and I highly encourage everybody to vote “Yes” on 37 if you live in California,
so that at least GMOs will be labeled. This is not saying GMOs are good or bad, but it’s
giving people the choice to know if there’s GMO in there, and then the person could choose
if they want to consume that food or not. And I would highly encourage you guys not
to include GMOs in your diet, and that’s one of the reasons why I like to grow my own
heirloom foods myself so that I’m not eating GMO foods. So if you live in California vote
“yes,” if you have friends in California call them, let them know that they need to
vote “yes,” as well, and also visit the website to learn more and
hopefully maybe even get some ballot initiatives and get some laws passed in other states to
get GMOs labeled. So now we’re going to check another booth,
and this is actually the booth for Gardening by the Moon. So you know many people garden
by the sun, but you might also want to garden by the moon because that may be the reason
why you got brown thumbs, because there’s certain times you should plant and certain
times you shouldn’t plant, there is more moisture in the soil when the moon’s in
the right cycle, and this calendar here will basically share with you when exactly to plant
according to the moon. They have three different calendars, one’s for a long growing season,
one’s for a medium growing season, and one’s for a short growing season depending on where
you live and besides gardening by the moon, this is also a valuable calendar because they
basically have gardening activities by the months. So if you don’t know what you’re
supposed to be doing in the garden, this is a very easy way that’ll let you know what
you should be doing, like what seeds to plant, what vegetables and whatnot like that. Now
I don’t know if gardening by the moon helps, I can tell you what the astrological signs
and stuff, and me and dating I don’t know if that really works or not, but this is something
to try and I think it only could be beneficial, but the one thing I want to let you guys know
is that don’t stress out, like “Oh man I didn’t get my plants planted when the
calendar said,” don’t worry about it just plant it anyway, it’s far better to plant
it not on the right date and get something planted than not plant anything at all, because
I always what you guys to experiment and just see what works. I haven’t gardened by the
moon because I’m always busy and stuff, but optimally I would like to do that one
day. To learn more about the gardening by the moon calendar you want to visit the website And the final word that I like to say is that I have a friend
that says he doesn’t garden by the moon, he gardens by the weekend.
Now I have another booth to share with you guys, and this one’s really valuable especially
if you guys are watching me online which I know you guys are, because everybody has a
computer that’s Internet connected, and this is one of the best online aps that’s
free for gardeners and check it out it’s right here, it’s called
Really simple, and what this allows you to do, it allows you to basically
make gardening easy for the newcomer. So if you don’t have a plan, you don’t know
what the heck you’re doing, go to this website it takes you step by step and I could flip
through some of the screens here, it takes you from setting up what you could grow, it
finds out your location and it knows your planting dates, it knows your frost dates
it knows your growing season how long it is. Then you’re going to do the layout. So now
you’re going to design your raised beds, how you want it laid out in a little grid
thing, you could make it any way you want, then you’re going to basically go in and
select the plants you want to grow. Maybe you want to grow some beefsteak tomatoes or
some broccoli, it’s all in here people! And then you could actually even buy the seeds
from the website, they’ll send them to you, or you could buy your own seeds at Walmart
or [inaudible] or wherever, and then the next step is, you’re going to go ahead and plant
out, and it’s going to tell you exactly when to plant them out, what month, it’s
going to send you an email to remind you to plant them so that you don’t forget, and
that you do these on the proper date so you’re going to get the best results so that you
can start easily growing some food at home. Finally you’re going to go through and can
see here’s a layout we’re going to grow melons in these raised beds, we’re going
to grow the squashes and some sunflowers here, makes it nice and pretty, you could even print
this out and then you could just build and fill your raised beds and just get it done.
You know this will take all the guesswork out if you’re timid and shy about gardening,
you don’t want to just jump in like I always encourage you guys to do, this will make it
okay and get you approval, and a plan to do it so you’ll have the highest level of success.
Finally you’re never going to forget what to do because it has a to-do list. And this
will email you and it will have your email address to remind you what to do. Once you
plant it you check it off that it’s been planted, then it’s going to tell you when
it’s right to harvest and that kind of stuff as well. So this is one complete system all
free, they do have additional add-ons if you want to do extra features and whatnot, but
the base system’s all free, highly encourage you guys especially if you haven’t gardened
yet, log on so you can start gardening today. The final thing that’s really important
and valuable about this system is that people in your area or similar zip codes you can
find out what they’re growing and how they’re doing it and how their garden is so that you
can get ideas on how you might want to grow as well. So once again the website is,
to simply grow great food. So you guys saw a lot of cool booths here
at the Heirloom Expo, people are packing up and going home, but before everybody goes
home I want to share with you guys this one last booth I like a lot, it’s actually the
insect frass booth, and if you guys saw my other video a couple of shows ago, I had another
video on this and I wanted to show you guys this again, because they have some new products
that are really valuable, and you guys should just know about this product and you should
all be using this, especially if you have some white fly and aphid issues like that,
this will totally knock it out. So the first thing they have that’s new here is called
the Phytol, and the Phytol is a fungicide, mildicide[?] and insecticide. The thing about
this is that this is an organic food grade oil with botanicals, so it’s really effective,
works really well, and it’s organic certified. You could spray this stuff on your plants
and eat the stuff afterwards, and you know it’s not going to taste like fish or anything.
And it smells good too, some of these things like this they smell nasty. But check out
what it works on, right here it works on the two spot mites, spider mites, red citrus mites,
thrips, fungus gnats, aphids, mealy bugs, white flies, leaf rollers, leaf miner fly,
armored scale, actually that’s an issue I’m having right now in my garden, soft
scale – those are those white little things on your leaves, and it also works on things
like powdery mildew to knock it out, downy mildew, [inaudible] and black spot. You’re
only going to use this if you have an existing condition, if you’ve got white flies or
aphids on all your plants right now, use this to knock them out. And the thing I like about
this is this will also take out the eggs, a lot of products won’t take out the eggs,
so you could spray today with your other products, and then you’re killing the adults but the
eggs will hatch, and then you’re going to have another problem in just a couple of days
because they have a pretty quick turn for the insect. So this one wipes out everything.
Once you’ve got your plants clean, then you want to go to stage 2. Stage 2 is right
here, this is the insect frass. This is the stuff I like a lot, and simply frass means
poop. And this is basically poop from insects right here, this stuff’s organic, check
it out. And besides being a 2-2-2 fertilizer, the main benefit of this besides having the
beneficial microbes in here as well, the main reason why I like this stuff is because basically
it builds the immune system of your plants and makes them literally insect resistant.
This has the chitin in it which your plant will produce the chitinase and the insects
won’t want to eat your plants, they’ll go to your neighbors that didn’t use the
frass, so you want to get on frass. I recently started using the frass on one of my plants
and I’m noticing some results, and they’re being more immune to the white flies and the
aphids that I’m having in my garden right now. The final product which is a new product
they don’t even got the labeling for, once again it’s another organic product and I
like this company because they get the best of the best stuff right here. This is ocean-grown
100% soluble fish hydrolysate. So what does that mean? What’s fish hydrolysate? Well
basically they take—you guys may know about fish emulsion, where they take fish, they
heat up all the stuff and then they basically get an extraction out of the emulsion. But
when they do that they’re using heat, and when you extract things with heat your lose
nutrition, it’s like microwaving your food versus eating raw food. And this right here,
they use enzymes to break down the fish to make it absorbable for your plants, and this
is water-soluble, so you could put this in your hydro systems, in your aquaponic systems,
or even feed it through your drip lines, this is going to get right in there and it’s
an amino acid so it’s really going to feed your plants what it needs to really supercharge
their growth. So I like this stuff a lot, and be forewarned, this stuff does smell like
fish. So to learn more about the products that I
just showed you here, you want to visit the website I think pretty much everybody’s
packing up, this is the end of the show, I’m glad I got to show this to you guys before
they go. These are very important products, especially the frass. If you don’t get any
of these products, you want to definitely get the frass, this is like the cutting edge
on building your plants’ immune systems to make them immune to the bugs instead of
spraying all those nasty chemicals that many of you guys may have to resort to, so grow
healthy plants, build your soil, so you don’t have to use all those toxic chemical sprays.
Hopefully you guys enjoyed this episode at the Second Annual Heirloom Expo, everybody’s
packing up, I’ve got to get my booth packed up and I’ve got to run. But once again my
name is John Kohler with, we’ll see you next time and remember keep
on growing.

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100 thoughts on “Make Your Vegetable Garden Immune to Aphids and White Flies with Insect Frass

  1. Jeffery Smith links GMO to toxins, allergies, infertility, infant mortality, immune dysfunction, stunted growth, and death.

  2. It is great to see all these new products.
    I might try the gardening by the moon cycle one day and see if it makes any difference.

  3. The causal effect between the gravitational pull of the moon on both ocean tides AND body tides is factual and measurable. It is not magic.

    "At Northwestern University, Dr. Frank Brown conducted a 10-year study showing that during a full moon, plants absorb more water. The study was conducted in a laboratory setting, and even though the plants were out of sight of the moon, its gravitational pull still influenced the plant's absorptive qualities"

  4. Countries which have banned or instituted measures to restrict the use of GMO's: France, Algeria, Japan, Egypt, Thailand, China, Phillipines, Norway, Austria, Germany, UK, Spain, Italy, Greece, Luxembourg, Ireland, Saudi Arabia, Brazil, Paraguay.

  5. Dude, I totally agree that the zodiac is nonsense 😀 but I can't help wondering if the increased light level and other changes make a difference. Would love to see some experiments done in this area. At the moment opinions appear polarized between people selling nonsense and people who see the nonsense and decide the whole thing is groundless 🙁

  6. Exactly. I guess the increased light could possibly have an effect, however, the full moon is about 500,000 times fainter than the Sun, and anything less than full is literally millions of times dimmer, so I doubt it would make a difference.
    When they start talking about increased gravity at full moon, etc, my bullshit detector is deafening! That astrologer idiot obviously knows nothing about physics, the tides or astronomy.
    If it is at all beneficial, it is NOT for the reasons he states.

  7. Saw this in the Whole Living magazine and wanted to share it with you.

    "Ferguson, Missouri
    A months-long feud between resident Kari Tricamo and local officials finally ended when the Board of Adjustment voted 4-1 to throw appearance citation against his front-yard garden, which features 55 varieties of heirloom produce."

  8. I have a neighbor who’s a drunkard, and almost every time I go out to work in my yard, that lush stumbles out on his back porch, drops his pants, and wave his posterior in my general direction. Does that count as “gardening by the moon?”

  9. Hey John I am attempting to grow plants during the winter in a green house in Utah. Im wondering if you have a list somehwere of plants that can take some coldness? I probably wont be able to get through the entire winter but I figured you would be a good source for cold weather plants and how cold can it get and how warm does it have to get to keep plants growing?

  10. Some of the main crops I would focus on for best results are cold hardy plants- the brassica plants come to mind, so kale, collards, brocolli, caulflower, bok choi, mustard greens, etc. Those are the most tolerant in general, and I would plant those mostly.

  11. On amazon . Com I just got medicinal garden seeds and culinary Herb garden seeds both of them are resealable durable medal storage cans with resealable Reusable triple Layered seed packets can I put them in the fridge or will it damage the seeds What do you suggest ?

  12. aloha, my name is Robert Burns, to ask such a question after all we know now, so sad so many don't know or even don't care. On you tube go to bobby burns worms, A TEDX talk, saving the world through global worming. If I knew that eating organic food would help my eye sight, 40 years ago, come on lets start being the solution , nice answer my friend. IF u ever get to Kauai, stop by and say aloha 🙂

  13. aloha, please, you are so mis informed , what varieties do we have now, please do your your research, go to the cancer ward, watch food matters or Dr. Max Gerson. aloha.

  14. smartgardener and insect frass both caught my eye. I have the pages in other tabs right now. I am off to check them out. thank you.

  15. great video john,
    I have a question, I am a beginner at growing organic. We have never been able to grow cabbage because of the bug attack. Will the product phytol that you are showing in this video help that problem.
    How about broccoli too?
    Blessings ~

  16. Hi John, Jeff here from Organic Nutrients. It was great to meet you. i wanted to say thank you here on Youtube for the support you have helped to drum up. Heismyhightower, pulling up fresh broccoli only to boil it and watch aphids or other bugs float to the top is the worst;( Phytol will most definitely help you with that.
    Keep the videos coming John! The information and energy is great every time.

  17. It's the paints and glazing that generally have lead in them. Those pots have no glaze on the inside, only on the outside. And the glazes they use are probably free of lead, most modern glazes are though be careful of overseas stuff of course.

  18. In regards to the fish dust,take a Geiger counter to any thing out of the ocean first. Fucashima is still not closed off from the environment.

  19. Even if you ignore the fact that GMOs have not been testing for long term health effects, the main reason to avoid them is Biodiversity! We need Biodiversity, and Monsanto wants to destroy it, and charge farmers for useless seed that can only be used once, since it can not reseed.

  20. Have you ever heard of Diatomacious Earth? It kind of does what that Frass does. It's a silica from an ancient fossilized Diatom, the silica shells are so small and sharp that they tear apart insects and worms upon contact. Yet, the silica is absorbed by plants as a necessary nutrient, completely harmless to both the plant and yourself. It's good to have silica in your diet, most are nutrient deficient

  21. I had aphids appear for the first time and completely lost it. I nearly wept when a ladybug flew away. 🙁

  22. You can use neem oil, peppermint and cinnamon oils and have the same results. Powdered cinnamon knocks out any fungus. And DE is awesome for anything with a hard shell.

  23. Sweetie is isn't a fallacy. You need to do your own research and stop listening to our government. Why are GMO's outlawed in most of the rest of the world, if they were ok? Wake up, SHEEP!

  24. get some neem oil, its all natural and works wonders, just don't use it when plant is in flower if you want it pollinated, NO bugs will go near it.

  25. When planting your garden, make sure you have some plants with small flowers nearby. I make sure not to mow all the grass, especially any areas with clover. These small plants will attract bees to help with pollination and also predators like long-legged flies. I had white fly on my squash last weekend, but thanks to the clover and small flowers, the whole population has been wiped out by beautiful golden dolichopodidae. Feel free to google them, a truly beneficial insect!

  26. I live in northern ontario canada and I can tell you from experience that kale and spinach will continue growing even when it is frozen and covered in snow, infact, that is when it tastes the best 😀

  27. You say with great enthusiasm and passion that you like the products: phytol and insect frass a lot. I presume you have been using the phytol to clean your plants and have gone to stage 2 with the insect frass, which you state makes your plants insect resistant. However why are you also telling us that you have a problem with armored scale, whitefly and aphids? So are you just giving us some super sales pitch? 

  28. Can someone post the time at which the aphids part starts?  I made it through about 6 minutes before I gave up.

  29. So why are you spewing about some farmers market and its plants and seeds????? "Make your vegetable garden immune to aphids and white flies" That is the subject matter you hyperactive spaz!!!!!!!!!! You lied!!! All I get is your face spewing out nothing about the subject you posted. horrible!!!

  30. Great info as usual! I'll have to try this. I've used cigarette butt tea (I don't smoke, yet can find plenty of ppl that do). I just put a bunch in a container & pour a bit on new growth. It doesn't smell more than a couple of days & doesn't seem to bother my lady bugs or green lacewings. Has worked wonders for years!

  31. What a stupid video, please stop trying to sound like some asinine reality show and be true to the title please.

  32. I love your videos and enthusiasm! Thanks so much for taking the time to make these great videos. I can't even tell you how much you've helped me during the first time I've EVER attempted to have a vegetable garden. I appreciate it a whole bunch! 

  33. Everyone is connected by the internet? You really like really need to rethink that statement well over fifty percent of the global population hasn't made or received a phone call yet everyone is connected get you're head out of you're hippie ass and learn something other then propaganda because you're just wrong

  34. Hey John, you mentioned that you had a booth but I don't recall seeing it in any of your vids.  Do you have any video or pics of your booth?

  35. Hey John, just watched a few of your videos on or having portions on white flies.  You really are the pumped up promoter 🙂 Haha.  But seriously I found your videos very helpful and inspiring, keep up the good work.

  36. The link I'm giving here explains why we can't see whiteflies until it's too late:  /watch?v=V3q2PEB9MAI   I thought this was very interesting.

  37. Tried almost everything natural for whiteflies. They got in my greenhouse on my pepper plants. Bronners peppermint with neem, water blasts daily, and I even released 1500 lady bugs. Nothing phased them. I grew in worm casing and used the bug frass but they didn't mind one bit. Next year I'm gonna reverse the fan and blow air in creating positive pressure. Now that the plants are spent I'm gonna experiment.


  38. has anyone tried the frass and had it work?  I cant spray all the time because I go out of town a lot.  Also, will this work on Apple trees?

  39. Promoting…!, so you advertising for them to sell their product, look at the comments and see how many people tried that junk with no result. I liked some of your video were you not selling though…

  40. thanks for all your great videos. real appreciate you time and energy. im about to buy a small holding near the beach in southern ireland. cant wait.

  41. Wow! Smart gardener looks like my future best friend! I am totally the Insecure Gardner, so thanks a lot for the inspirations! You're the best!

  42. I'm just getting started with the gardening. I know this an old vid from you but wanted to let you know your efforts from a few years ago are still reaching people that really benefit from it ! Thank you for your effort and passion to help people educate there self.

  43. I'm having trouble with white flys I'm trying neem oil and spraying them with water is there anything else I can try?

  44. This guy is always trying to sell stuff that may or may not help, no doubt he gets a kickback for his videos. Worm castings in the soil will not prevent insect attacks but will help the soil and plants. No need to pay this money and have this shipped when all you have to do is make your own out of dish soap, veg oil, and water, this and the advertised stuff only work on insects if they are presently on your plants. Planting certain companion plants can also help , look it up online.

  45. I had aphids show up on my young pepper plants about a week ago. I grow in my basement under 4 lights and have maybe 300 plants total. Mostly peppers. The aphids seemed to come out of nowhere because I spend a lot of time with my plants every day and I didn't see them the day before, then suddenly there were massive amounts covering several pepper plants in one section, under one light. I mixed neem oil, soap, clove oil and rosemary oil in water and drenched them really well with a spray bottle. I did take them outside so that I could wash most of them off but the mix actually killed them. There were only a few corpses left on a few leaves but I haven't seen one since.

  46. Smart Gardener is not free by the way, just checked and its $3 for 90 days and $10 for 100. Most people arent gonna spend money before testing out the program.

  47. hey John, what is the name of that fungal dominated compost you used in you're raised bed and where can I get it?

  48. Prop 37 was defeated. I don't understand why anyone would vote to be left in the dark about the food they are eating.

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