NOAA Feuds With National Weather Center Over Dorian Projections | Hardball | MSNBC


INVESTIGATE THE ADMINISTRATION’S EXPENDITURE OF TAXPAYER MONEY AT EXPENDITURE OF TAXPAYER MONEY AT TRUMP-OWNED PROPERTIES. TRUMP-OWNED PROPERTIES. THEN IT WAS THE PRESIDENT’S THEN IT WAS THE PRESIDENT’S SEEMING FIXATION, A FIXATION SEEMING FIXATION, A FIXATION THAT IS IN FULL FORCE AT THIS THAT IS IN FULL FORCE AT THIS HOUR ON A CLAIM HE MADE SUNDAY HOUR ON A CLAIM HE MADE SUNDAY ABOUT HURRICANE DORIAN. ABOUT HURRICANE DORIAN. THAT WAS WHEN TRUMP ON TWITTER THAT WAS WHEN TRUMP ON TWITTER STATED THAT ALABAMA WOULD, STATED THAT ALABAMA WOULD, QUOTE, MOST LIKELY BE HIT MUCH QUOTE, MOST LIKELY BE HIT MUCH IN PARENTHESIS HARDER THAN IN PARENTHESIS HARDER THAN ANTICIPATED. ANTICIPATED. THAT PROMPTED A CLARIFICATION THAT PROMPTED A CLARIFICATION FROM THE NATIONAL WEATHER FROM THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN BIRMINGHAM. SERVICE IN BIRMINGHAM. BUT THE STORY WAS FAR FROM OVER BUT THE STORY WAS FAR FROM OVER WITH THE PRESIDENT SEEMINGLY WITH THE PRESIDENT SEEMINGLY RILED UP BY THE NEWS COVERAGE OF RILED UP BY THE NEWS COVERAGE OF THE MATTER IN THE OVAL OFFICE ON THE MATTER IN THE OVAL OFFICE ON TUESDAY. TUESDAY. HE UNVEILED A MAP OF POTENTIAL HE UNVEILED A MAP OF POTENTIAL STORM AFFECTED AREAS THAT STORM AFFECTED AREAS THAT APPEARED TO BE DOCTORED WITH A APPEARED TO BE DOCTORED WITH A SHARPIE TO INCLUDE ALABAMA. SHARPIE TO INCLUDE ALABAMA. AT THE TIME TRUMP SAID HE DIDN’T AT THE TIME TRUMP SAID HE DIDN’T KNOW ABOUT THE EDITS TO THE MAP. KNOW ABOUT THE EDITS TO THE MAP.>>THAT MAP THAT YOU SHOWED US>>THAT MAP THAT YOU SHOWED US TODAY LOOKED LIKE IT ALMOST HAD TODAY LOOKED LIKE IT ALMOST HAD A SHARPIE. A SHARPIE.>>I DON’T KNOW, I DON’T KNOW.>>I DON’T KNOW, I DON’T KNOW.>>HOWEVER, “THE WASHINGTON>>HOWEVER, “THE WASHINGTON POST” NOW REPORTS THAT ACCORDING POST” NOW REPORTS THAT ACCORDING TO A WHITE HOUSE OFFICIAL WHO TO A WHITE HOUSE OFFICIAL WHO SPOKE ON THE CONDITION OF SPOKE ON THE CONDITION OF ANONYMITY, QUOTE, IT WAS TRUMP ANONYMITY, QUOTE, IT WAS TRUMP WHO USED A BLACK SHARPIE TO MARK WHO USED A BLACK SHARPIE TO MARK UP AN OFFICIAL MAP, THOUGH NBC UP AN OFFICIAL MAP, THOUGH NBC NEWS HAS NOT MATCHED THAT NEWS HAS NOT MATCHED THAT REPORTING. REPORTING. THROUGHOUT THIS WEEK, TRUMP HAS THROUGHOUT THIS WEEK, TRUMP HAS POSTED 11 TWEETS AND MULTIPLE POSTED 11 TWEETS AND MULTIPLE MAPS IN AN ATONEMENT JUSTIFY HIS MAPS IN AN ATONEMENT JUSTIFY HIS ORIGINAL CLAIM, EVEN ENLISTING A ORIGINAL CLAIM, EVEN ENLISTING A GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL TO DEFEND GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL TO DEFEND HIM. HIM. THE “WASHINGTON POST” NOTES THE “WASHINGTON POST” NOTES THAT, QUOTE, IN EFFECT, TRUMP THAT, QUOTE, IN EFFECT, TRUMP WAS ATTEMPTING TO BEND TIME, WAS ATTEMPTING TO BEND TIME, CLAIMING AN PROJECTION THAT WAS CLAIMING AN PROJECTION THAT WAS SEVERAL DAYS OUT OF DATE WAS SEVERAL DAYS OUT OF DATE WAS ACCURATE AT THE TIME HE WARNED ACCURATE AT THE TIME HE WARNED ALABAMA OF A DIRE THREAT THAT ALABAMA OF A DIRE THREAT THAT DIDN’T EXIST. DIDN’T EXIST. AND NOW THIS SAGA APPEARS TO BE AND NOW THIS SAGA APPEARS TO BE CONTINUING AS WE SPEAK. CONTINUING AS WE SPEAK. LATE TONIGHT, THE NATIONAL LATE TONIGHT, THE NATIONAL OCEANIC AND ATMOSPHERIC OCEANIC AND ATMOSPHERIC ADMINISTRATION RELEASED AN ADMINISTRATION RELEASED AN UNATTRIBUTED STATEMENT SAYING UNATTRIBUTED STATEMENT SAYING THAT THE INFORMATION PROVIDED TO THAT THE INFORMATION PROVIDED TO THE PRESIDENT THROUGH MONDAY THE PRESIDENT THROUGH MONDAY DEMONSTRATED THAT AT LEAST, DEMONSTRATED THAT AT LEAST, QUOTE, TROPICAL STORM-FORCE QUOTE, TROPICAL STORM-FORCE WINDS FROM HURRICANE DORIAN WINDS FROM HURRICANE DORIAN COULD IMPACT ALABAMA. COULD IMPACT ALABAMA. JOINED NOW BY ANNIE KARNI, WHITE JOINED NOW BY ANNIE KARNI, WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT FOR “THE NEW HOUSE CORRESPONDENT FOR “THE NEW YORK TIMES,” EUGENE ROBINSON IS YORK TIMES,” EUGENE ROBINSON IS A COLUMNIST AT “THE WASHINGTON A COLUMNIST AT “THE WASHINGTON POST,” AND NOAH ROTHMAN IS POST,” AND NOAH ROTHMAN IS ASSOCIATE EDITOR AT COMMENTARY ASSOCIATE EDITOR AT COMMENTARY MAGAZINE. MAGAZINE. THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING WITH US. THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING WITH US. ANNIE, LET ME START WITH YOU, ANNIE, LET ME START WITH YOU, AND WE JUST ENDED THAT AND WE JUST ENDED THAT INTRODUCTION ON THE NOAA INTRODUCTION ON THE NOAA STATEMENT THAT CAME OUT WITHIN STATEMENT THAT CAME OUT WITHIN THE LAST HOUR OR TWO. THE LAST HOUR OR TWO. NO NAME ON IT, UNATTRIBUTED. NO NAME ON IT, UNATTRIBUTED. IT SEEMS AN UNUSUAL STATEMENT IN IT SEEMS AN UNUSUAL STATEMENT IN THIS MATTER ITSELF IS UNUSUAL. THIS MATTER ITSELF IS UNUSUAL. ANY SENSE WHERE THAT STATEMENT ANY SENSE WHERE THAT STATEMENT CAME FROM, WHAT PROMPTED IT? CAME FROM, WHAT PROMPTED IT?>>I MEAN, WE DON’T KNOW YET>>I MEAN, WE DON’T KNOW YET WHETHER NOAA DECIDED TO PUT THIS WHETHER NOAA DECIDED TO PUT THIS OUT ON ITS OWN ACCORD OR WHETHER OUT ON ITS OWN ACCORD OR WHETHER THERE WAS SOME DIRECTION FROM THERE WAS SOME DIRECTION FROM THE WHITE HOUSE THAT THEY WOULD THE WHITE HOUSE THAT THEY WOULD LIKE THEM TO DO THIS. LIKE THEM TO DO THIS. BUT IT MATCHES WHAT WE SAW BUT IT MATCHES WHAT WE SAW YESTERDAY, WHICH IS THAT THE YESTERDAY, WHICH IS THAT THE PRESIDENT HAD A REAR ADMIRAL PRESIDENT HAD A REAR ADMIRAL COME OUT AND PUT OUT A STATEMENT COME OUT AND PUT OUT A STATEMENT SAYING HE HAD BRIEFED A SAYING HE HAD BRIEFED A PRESIDENT AND TOLD HIM THAT PRESIDENT AND TOLD HIM THAT ALABAMA WAS IN THE PATH OF THE ALABAMA WAS IN THE PATH OF THE STORM. STORM. SO IT MATCHES A PATH OF TRUMP SO IT MATCHES A PATH OF TRUMP LOOKING FOR OFFICIAL AGENCIES OR LOOKING FOR OFFICIAL AGENCIES OR PEOPLE OF RANK TO BACK HIM UP ON PEOPLE OF RANK TO BACK HIM UP ON THIS STORY GOING INTO DAY SIX, THIS STORY GOING INTO DAY SIX, AND NOW THIS IS FRIDAY NIGHT. AND NOW THIS IS FRIDAY NIGHT. THIS IS GOING TO GET COVERED. THIS IS GOING TO GET COVERED. I ASSUME THIS WILL ONLY PROLONG I ASSUME THIS WILL ONLY PROLONG THIS NEWS CYCLE INTO THE THIS NEWS CYCLE INTO THE WEEKEND, WHICH IS AN ODD MOVE WEEKEND, WHICH IS AN ODD MOVE FOR THE PRESIDENT WHO HAS FOR THE PRESIDENT WHO HAS PROLONGED A NONSTORY INTO SIX PROLONGED A NONSTORY INTO SIX NOW POTENTIALLY SEVEN, EIGHT NOW POTENTIALLY SEVEN, EIGHT DAYS. DAYS.>>THAT’S MY OTHER QUESTION FOR>>THAT’S MY OTHER QUESTION FOR YOU. YOU. YOU COVER THE HOUSEWHITE HOUSE. YOU COVER THE HOUSEWHITE HOUSE. YOU HAVE A SENSE OF WHAT’S GOING YOU HAVE A SENSE OF WHAT’S GOING ON THERE. ON THERE. IT SEEMS WHEN DORIAN STARTED IT SEEMS WHEN DORIAN STARTED EMERGING, MAKING ITS WAY TOWARDS EMERGING, MAKING ITS WAY TOWARDS THE ATLANTIC COAST LAST WEEK, THE ATLANTIC COAST LAST WEEK, LATE LAST WEEK, THERE WAS A MOVE LATE LAST WEEK, THERE WAS A MOVE IN THE WHITE HOUSE TO GET TRUMP IN THE WHITE HOUSE TO GET TRUMP TO CANCEL THAT TRIP OVERSEAS TO TO CANCEL THAT TRIP OVERSEAS TO PROJECT THIS IMPASSAGE OF PROJECT THIS IMPASSAGE OF PRESIDENTIAL LEADERSHIP IN A PRESIDENTIAL LEADERSHIP IN A TIME OF POTENTIAL CRISIS. TIME OF POTENTIAL CRISIS. NOW AS YOU SAY, AT THE END OF NOW AS YOU SAY, AT THE END OF THIS WEEK, AS THE STORM HAS THIS WEEK, AS THE STORM HAS CONTINUED ALL WEEK, WE’RE CONTINUED ALL WEEK, WE’RE TALKING ABOUT A SHARPIE. TALKING ABOUT A SHARPIE. WHAT IS THE SENSE OF FOLKS WHAT IS THE SENSE OF FOLKS AROUND TRUMP IN THE WHITE HOUSE? AROUND TRUMP IN THE WHITE HOUSE? DO THEY THINK HE IS ACHIEVING DO THEY THINK HE IS ACHIEVING SOMETHING HERE, OR ARE THEY SOMETHING HERE, OR ARE THEY SAYING THIS IS SOMETHING HE SAYING THIS IS SOMETHING HE SHOULD NOT BE DOING, IN THEIR SHOULD NOT BE DOING, IN THEIR VIEW? VIEW?>>WELL, HE IS TURNING THIS>>WELL, HE IS TURNING THIS STORY INTO REALLY A ROUND ABOUT STORY INTO REALLY A ROUND ABOUT WAY TO ATTACK MEDIA, WHICH IS WAY TO ATTACK MEDIA, WHICH IS KIND OF THE OVERARCHING KIND OF THE OVERARCHING NARRATIVE OF THIS WHITE HOUSE. NARRATIVE OF THIS WHITE HOUSE. NOW IT’S THAT THE REPORTS ABOUT NOW IT’S THAT THE REPORTS ABOUT HIS MISTAKE ARE INACCURATE. HIS MISTAKE ARE INACCURATE. HE’S TRYING TO GET ALL THESE HE’S TRYING TO GET ALL THESE WAYS TO SHOW NO, I WAS RIGHT, WAYS TO SHOW NO, I WAS RIGHT, AND IT’S THE MEDIA REPORTING ON AND IT’S THE MEDIA REPORTING ON ME THAT ONCE AGAIN IS WRONG. ME THAT ONCE AGAIN IS WRONG. WE SAW AT THE SAME TIME THAT WE SAW AT THE SAME TIME THAT ANOTHER BIG STORY LINE OF THE ANOTHER BIG STORY LINE OF THE WEEK WAS THE WHITE HOUSE WEEK WAS THE WHITE HOUSE ATTACKING “THE WASHINGTON POST” ATTACKING “THE WASHINGTON POST” FOR A STORY THAT THE PAPER WROTE FOR A STORY THAT THE PAPER WROTE ABOUT TRUMP’S LOST SUMMER, A ABOUT TRUMP’S LOST SUMMER, A HUGE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE INROADS HUGE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE INROADS WITH POLICY ACHIEVEMENTS AND ON WITH POLICY ACHIEVEMENTS AND ON HIS CAMPAIGN THAT WAS SORT OF HIS CAMPAIGN THAT WAS SORT OF LOST TO TRIVIAL FIGHTS. LOST TO TRIVIAL FIGHTS. WE SAW THEM PUSHING BACK WE SAW THEM PUSHING BACK AGGRESSIVELY ON THAT. AGGRESSIVELY ON THAT. SO THIS IS TURNING INTO A SO THIS IS TURNING INTO A CLASSIC TRUMP DOUBLING DOWN, CLASSIC TRUMP DOUBLING DOWN, TRIPLING DOWN, NOT ABLE TO ADMIT TRIPLING DOWN, NOT ABLE TO ADMIT A MISTAKE INTO REALLY ANOTHER A MISTAKE INTO REALLY ANOTHER WAY TO CALL IT ALL FAKE NEWS. WAY TO CALL IT ALL FAKE NEWS. SO IN THAT SENSE, IT FITS THE SO IN THAT SENSE, IT FITS THE OVERARCHING NARRATIVE THAT IS OVERARCHING NARRATIVE THAT IS ALWAYS PART OF THIS WHITE HOUSE. ALWAYS PART OF THIS WHITE HOUSE.>>WE MENTIONED THE STATEMENT>>WE MENTIONED THE STATEMENT THAT CAME OUT IN THE LAST COUPLE THAT CAME OUT IN THE LAST COUPLE OF HOURS FROM NOAA. OF HOURS FROM NOAA. IN THAT STATEMENT, NOAA ALSO IN THAT STATEMENT, NOAA ALSO REPRIMANDED THE NATIONAL WEATHER REPRIMANDED THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN BIRMINGHAM, WHICH SERVICE IN BIRMINGHAM, WHICH FIRST CORRECTED THE PRESIDENT FIRST CORRECTED THE PRESIDENT LAST SUNDAY, SAYING THEIR TWEET, LAST SUNDAY, SAYING THEIR TWEET, QUOTE, SPOKE IN ABSOLUTE TERMS QUOTE, SPOKE IN ABSOLUTE TERMS THAT WERE INCONSISTENT WITH THAT WERE INCONSISTENT WITH PROBABILITIES FROM THE BEST PROBABILITIES FROM THE BEST FORECAST PRODUCTS AVAILABLE AT FORECAST PRODUCTS AVAILABLE AT THE TIME. THE TIME. NOW A PROMINENT METEOROLOGIST IN NOW A PROMINENT METEOROLOGIST IN BIRMINGHAM IS SPEAKING OUT BIRMINGHAM IS SPEAKING OUT SAYING, QUOTE, THE TWEET FROM SAYING, QUOTE, THE TWEET FROM THE WEATHER SERVICE IN THE WEATHER SERVICE IN BIRMINGHAM WAS SPOT-ON AND BIRMINGHAM WAS SPOT-ON AND ACCURATE. ACCURATE. IF THEY’RE COMING AFTER THEM, IF THEY’RE COMING AFTER THEM, THEY MIGHT AS WELL COME AFTER THEY MIGHT AS WELL COME AFTER ME. ME. HOW IN THE WORLD HAS IT COME TO HOW IN THE WORLD HAS IT COME TO THIS? THIS? GENE ROBINSON, AS I SAY, THIS IS GENE ROBINSON, AS I SAY, THIS IS A — THE WORD I WAS GOING TO A — THE WORD I WAS GOING TO USE, I THINK I USE IS UNUSUAL. USE, I THINK I USE IS UNUSUAL. THERE IS PROBABLY — THERE IS PROBABLY –>>OH, COME ON.>>OH, COME ON.>>WELL, AS UNUSUAL AS IT,>>WELL, AS UNUSUAL AS IT, THOUGH. THOUGH.>>YEAH.>>YEAH.>>IS IT POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE?>>IS IT POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE? DOES THIS CHANGE THE WAY ANYBODY DOES THIS CHANGE THE WAY ANYBODY VIEWS TRUMP? VIEWS TRUMP?>>YOU KNOW, I THINK IT’S QUITE>>YOU KNOW, I THINK IT’S QUITE NEGATIVE. NEGATIVE. AND THE REASON IS THAT, LOOK, AND THE REASON IS THAT, LOOK, THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME WE THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME WE HAVE SEEN PRESIDENT TRUMP HAVE SEEN PRESIDENT TRUMP OBSESSED OVER ABOUT HIS OBSESSED OVER ABOUT HIS COVERAGE, COVERAGE THAT HE FELT COVERAGE, COVERAGE THAT HE FELT WAS OR WANTED TO MAINTAIN WAS WAS OR WANTED TO MAINTAIN WAS EXCESSIVELY NEGATIVE. EXCESSIVELY NEGATIVE. IT’S NOT THE FIRST TIME WE’VE IT’S NOT THE FIRST TIME WE’VE SEEN HIM ATTACK THE MEDIA. SEEN HIM ATTACK THE MEDIA. IT’S NOT THE FIRST TIME WE’VE IT’S NOT THE FIRST TIME WE’VE SEEN HIM NOT ABLE TO LET SEEN HIM NOT ABLE TO LET SOMETHING GO. SOMETHING GO. BUT THIS IS — THIS IS — BUT THIS IS — THIS IS — EVERYONE WAS PAYING ATTENTION TO EVERYONE WAS PAYING ATTENTION TO THIS HURRICANE, AND EVERYONE WAS THIS HURRICANE, AND EVERYONE WAS PAYING ATTENTION TO THE PATH OF PAYING ATTENTION TO THE PATH OF THIS HURRICANE. THIS HURRICANE. THIS IS KIND OF SIMPLE THING THIS IS KIND OF SIMPLE THING THAT IT’S VERY EASY TO SORT OF THAT IT’S VERY EASY TO SORT OF GET YOUR ARMS AROUND. GET YOUR ARMS AROUND. AND SO I THINK THAT PEOPLE HAVE AND SO I THINK THAT PEOPLE HAVE PAID ATTENTION. PAID ATTENTION. I WROTE A COLUMN ABOUT THIS THE I WROTE A COLUMN ABOUT THIS THE OTHER DAY. OTHER DAY. I GOT A MUCH BIGGER THAN USUAL I GOT A MUCH BIGGER THAN USUAL RESPONSE FROM COMMENTERS AND I RESPONSE FROM COMMENTERS AND I TWEETED ABOUT IT ONCE. TWEETED ABOUT IT ONCE. I THINK I GOT A MILLION I THINK I GOT A MILLION IMPRESSIONS ON THE TWEET. IMPRESSIONS ON THE TWEET. SO PEOPLE ARE PAYING ATTENTION. SO PEOPLE ARE PAYING ATTENTION. AND I DON’T SEE HOW THAT’S GOOD AND I DON’T SEE HOW THAT’S GOOD FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP. FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP. AND THE STATEMENT TONIGHT, AND THE STATEMENT TONIGHT, THROWING THE BIRMINGHAM NATIONAL THROWING THE BIRMINGHAM NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE OFFICE UNDER THE WEATHER SERVICE OFFICE UNDER THE PRESIDENTIAL BUS IS JUST PRESIDENTIAL BUS IS JUST EXTRAORDINARY. EXTRAORDINARY. IT’S ABSOLUTELY EXTRAORDINARY. IT’S ABSOLUTELY EXTRAORDINARY. THERE IS GOING TO BE AN UPROAR I THERE IS GOING TO BE AN UPROAR I THINK INSIDE THAT AGENCY OVER, THINK INSIDE THAT AGENCY OVER, YOU KNOW, THAT OFFICE DOING WHAT YOU KNOW, THAT OFFICE DOING WHAT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO DO. IT WAS SUPPOSED TO DO. THE PRESIDENT SAID PEOPLE WERE THE PRESIDENT SAID PEOPLE WERE IN DANGER AND THE WEATHER IN DANGER AND THE WEATHER SERVICE SAID PEOPLE OF ALABAMA, SERVICE SAID PEOPLE OF ALABAMA, YOU’RE NOT. YOU’RE NOT. THAT’S WHAT THE NATIONAL WEATHER THAT’S WHAT THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IS SUPPOSED TO DO. SERVICE IS SUPPOSED TO DO. IF NOT THAT, THEN WHAT? IF NOT THAT, THEN WHAT? THEIR JOB CERTAINLY ISN’T TO THEIR JOB CERTAINLY ISN’T TO BOLSTER WHATEVER CRAZY THING THE BOLSTER WHATEVER CRAZY THING THE PRESIDENT SAYS. PRESIDENT SAYS.>>I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE>>I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE CURIOUS TO SEE IF GOING TO BE CURIOUS TO SEE IF THERE IS SUBSEQUENT REPORTING ON THERE IS SUBSEQUENT REPORTING ON WHAT MAY HAVE GONE INTO THAT. WHAT MAY HAVE GONE INTO THAT. WE WILL SEE. WE WILL SEE. WHILE THE PRESIDENT SAYS HE WHILE THE PRESIDENT SAYS HE DOESN’T KNOW ABOUT THE SHARPIE DOESN’T KNOW ABOUT THE SHARPIE MADE TO THE MAP IN THE OVAL MADE TO THE MAP IN THE OVAL OFFICE IN HIS CAMPAIGN HAS OFFICE IN HIS CAMPAIGN HAS EMBRACED A BLACK MARKER AS A EMBRACED A BLACK MARKER AS A SYMBOL IN ITS PUSH TO REELECT SYMBOL IN ITS PUSH TO REELECT HIM. HIM. THE CAMPAIGN IS MARKETING A SET THE CAMPAIGN IS MARKETING A SET OF BLACK MARKERS THAT ARE FOR OF BLACK MARKERS THAT ARE FOR SALE ON HIS WEBSITE. SALE ON HIS WEBSITE. NOAH, HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THIS. NOAH, HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THIS. IT IS TRUMP VERSUS THE MEDIA. IT IS TRUMP VERSUS THE MEDIA. HE DOES SEEM TO SEE THAT AS WHAT HE DOES SEEM TO SEE THAT AS WHAT THIS ULTIMATELY IS, AND TO SEE THIS ULTIMATELY IS, AND TO SEE SOME KIND OF ADVANTAGE IN THAT. SOME KIND OF ADVANTAGE IN THAT.>>YEAH, BUT ANYBODY WHOSE ON>>YEAH, BUT ANYBODY WHOSE ON BOARD WITH THAT MESSAGE IS BOARD WITH THAT MESSAGE IS ALREADY ON BOARD. ALREADY ON BOARD. YOU’RE NOT GETTING NEW PEOPLE YOU’RE NOT GETTING NEW PEOPLE FROM THIS BLISTERINGLY, FROM THIS BLISTERINGLY, MIND-NUMBINGLY STUPID WEEK OF MIND-NUMBINGLY STUPID WEEK OF CONTROVERSY AROUND THIS. CONTROVERSY AROUND THIS. THE ORIGINAL TWEET WASN’T REALLY THE ORIGINAL TWEET WASN’T REALLY ALL THAT WRONG, RIGHT? ALL THAT WRONG, RIGHT? OTHER STATE, SOUTH CAROLINA, OTHER STATE, SOUTH CAROLINA, GEORGIA, ALABAMA, COULD BE GEORGIA, ALABAMA, COULD BE IMPACTED MORE. IMPACTED MORE. JUST IGNORING THE CRITICISM JUST IGNORING THE CRITICISM AROUND THAT WOULD HAVE MADE IT AROUND THAT WOULD HAVE MADE IT GO AWAY, BUT HE HAD TO TURN IT GO AWAY, BUT HE HAD TO TURN IT INTO A WEEK’S WORTH OF INTO A WEEK’S WORTH OF CONTROVERSY. CONTROVERSY. HIS DEFENDERS SAY WELL YOU HAVE HIS DEFENDERS SAY WELL YOU HAVE TO HIT BACK. TO HIT BACK. THEY’RE CALLING HIM A LIAR. THEY’RE CALLING HIM A LIAR. WHAT ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO DO, NOT WHAT ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO DO, NOT HIT BACK? HIT BACK? AND THE ANSWER TO THAT IS YES, AND THE ANSWER TO THAT IS YES, YOU DON’T HIT BACK, BECAUSE IT YOU DON’T HIT BACK, BECAUSE IT LOWERS YOUR STATURE AND YOUR LOWERS YOUR STATURE AND YOUR FAILURE TO ADMIT A MISTAKE, AND FAILURE TO ADMIT A MISTAKE, AND IT WAS A MISTAKE, A SMALL ONE, IT WAS A MISTAKE, A SMALL ONE, BUT A MISTAKE NONETHELESS. BUT A MISTAKE NONETHELESS. THE FAILURE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE FAILURE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AND THEN DOUBLE DOWN FOR AN AND THEN DOUBLE DOWN FOR AN ENTIRE WEEK MAKES YOU LOOK ENTIRE WEEK MAKES YOU LOOK INCREDIBLY SMALL. INCREDIBLY SMALL. THE FACT THAT THEY DON’T SEE THE FACT THAT THEY DON’T SEE THAT, HIS SUPPORTERS AND THE THAT, HIS SUPPORTERS AND THE PRESIDENT DON’T SEE THAT IS PRESIDENT DON’T SEE THAT IS GOING TO COME AS A VERY RUDE GOING TO COME AS A VERY RUDE AWAKENING I THINK, BECAUSE THIS AWAKENING I THINK, BECAUSE THIS SOMEONE OF THOSE STORIES THAT SOMEONE OF THOSE STORIES THAT TRANSLATES EASILY. TRANSLATES EASILY. EVERYBODY GETS THE WEATHER. EVERYBODY GETS THE WEATHER. YOU DON’T GET WHY THE FED YOU DON’T GET WHY THE FED CHAIRMAN REFUSING TO LOWER RATES CHAIRMAN REFUSING TO LOWER RATES ON ITS FACE IS TERRIBLE. ON ITS FACE IS TERRIBLE. THERE IS A LOT OF EDUCATION. THERE IS A LOT OF EDUCATION. THIS IS ONE THAT EVERYBODY BUYS

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  1. On the plus side Trump did provide shelter to hurricane victims in all his UNUSED ROOMS at his Florida resorts(sadly this is sarcasm, Trump is just golfing )

  2. Yes the pressure of the director "do this not that whack whack", no one likes a brazen bully. I for one cannot imagine a bigger bully than big tech media. It is as if a giant low hanging fruit of a great and all powerful schoolmaster. Yes with bullshish brass nose ring and nostrils feircely flaring. This is the sort of big tech bully a guy like me can work with. Work it big bully work it. You have come at last to the giggle britches boy rescue. You must handle the pressure deflector back at cha.

  3. Thieves think all people are thieves. Con men believe everyone is trying to con. Habitual liars believe all people are liars. Violent men believe all men are naturally violent. Male sexual predators believe they have the right and that all men are. Dummies believe all people are dumber than they are.Then one day senility begins to creep in.

  4. That’s funny I have the projected track dated August 31st. That clearly shows that the hurricane 5 day forecast showed nothing close to Alabama. Sec. Ross probably demanded NOAA make such a statement.

  5. Trump has made Dorian ALL ABOUT HIM thru his obsession with being right. Meanwhile the hurricane caused havoc along the coast and I didn't see him rushing to support N.C., S.C. and Virginia Is it because these stated aren't Florida??? Of maybe he considers us in the same category as Puerto Rico. Who knows what goes thru his head.

  6. Trump loves useless stuff like this hurricane little bs because it distracts from all the moves thats really hurting the USA. And this media is dumb with him.

  7. Early projections have nothing to do with Trump altering an official map to back his claim, how bad is Trumps self esteem to go to these lengths?

  8. Not being a US citizen this whole situation intrigues me, but can someone please tell me what government agency has the responsibility for issuing official Hurricane Warnings?

  9. The media is rabidly chasing the nonsense Trump is dishing out for them, and I cannot help thinking: What is Trump trying to distract them from?

  10. 1984 has nothing on the Trump administration. Its called reality control. "He who controls the past controls the future, he who controls the present controls the past." –

  11. "PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS 100% CORRECT AND THE F-A-K-E NEWS IS WRONG!! HE WAS TOLD NOAA THAT THE EARLIEST ESTIMATED PATHS, SHOW IF DORIAN CONTINUED THROUGH FLORIDA CERTAINLY ALABAMA WOULD HAVE BEEN AFFECTED AS ORIGINALLY PROJECTED BY THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE" THE CHART SHOWS A CLEAR PATH TOWARD THE LOWER END OF ALABAMA, ONCE THIS 300 MILE WIDE STORM PASSES FLORIDA AS EARLIER PROJECTED.

  12. So a Trump minion in a high position at NOAA forced the release of that statement. Trump is such a child. He just can't admit he was wrong.

  13. HE doesn't know what else to do- he got his fix again by lying again.
    instead of showing concern for victims of the storm he does the most vile
    heartless thing- make a circus when humanitarian aide is needed

  14. He was to busy golfing to worry about a storm. Remember when they would RIP Obama for golfing and all the money it cost. Now the trump family is literally profiting off of taxpayer money so he can golf.

  15. Well, we all (including Trump) learned at least one thing out of all of this. That is, never trust the INITIAL forecast of a hurricane as unchangeable, "set in stone". Duh!!! Trump as always afraid to admit his error, will probably try to get NWS official "to step down". Typical. Can't gainsay the senile egomaniac. How many resignations now in trump admin? No ones allowed to criticize him. Fascist

  16. With the outpouring of help from the private sector to Bahamas, trump will not share in the glory and the attention from the media. Donate to the Red Cross. Dont pay any attention to baby trump.

  17. WE LOVE TRUMP, YOU LIBS ARE CRAZY, LOL EUGENE WHO, ANNIE KARI WHO. IT IS SO FUNNY MAJOR NEWS COMPANIES ARE COVERING THIS

  18. MSNBC Just how trivial has your Network become. I have experienced 3 Hurricanes and 2 Cyclones and everyone on the ground knows just how unpredictable they can be. President Trump was looking at a scenario that had possibilities just like any normal person would. This Media outlet seems to be very anti everything.

  19. pick-pocketing 101… waves a sharpie with the right hand, empties Pentagon's wallet with the left… classic misdirection…

  20. He probably paid NOAA to release that anonymous statement. He paid his mistresses to stay quiet after all and has paid to keep other damaging information buried.

    Such a weakling, can’t handle criticism of any kind.

  21. Anyone else figure it out that this is just a distraction from military and other government officials being forced to stay at Trump properties, or maybe it's just reaction from is Charity Foundation being investigated again or maybe it's a distraction from the emoluments Clause that he keeps violating Witchwood tie in with government officials and Military staying at Trump hotels, maybe it's a distraction from the fact he's being sued in the country of Panama as we speak for tax evasion this is nothing but distraction Donald Trump knows how to distract and how to play people

  22. How much did Trump pay that individual at the NOAA?! NOAA has just lost credibility for their organization. Was it worth it?!

  23. I am sure most are aware of this by now but just in case some are not, the Director of Communications for NOAA is a woman named Julie Kay Roberts. On the NOAA website, Julie gives a brief history of her previous jobs, one of which was Deputy Director of Scheduling for Elaine Chao- trump lap-dog Mitch McConnell's wife.

    Others on the internet pulled her LinkedIn profile up which showed her as also previously working on the Trump campaign.

    I'd say she'd be a great place to start looking when it comes to researching who posted the unsigned NOAA Alabama/Dorian communication. I wouldn't be surprised if she herself did it. If not, she likely forced someone that reports to her to.

    I sure hope someone in the media goes after her and NOAA hard to get to the bottom of who published that communication backing the false weather report.

    Julie's NOAA Bio link:
    https://www.noaa.gov/our-people/leadership/julie-kay-roberts

    An article that discusses Julie's ties to the Trump campaign:
    https://www.truthorfiction.com/weather-agency-contradicts-itself-over-trumps-hurricane-forecast/

  24. At 00:43 shows picture of UK House of Commons with caption "Trump Obsesses…" I know there are comparisons between POTUS and the UK PM. Major edit screw up.

  25. "It could hurt". Really? Putting kids in something akin to POW camps, his white supremacy, and a possible recession hasn't made a difference. This is NOT going to hurt him in any way.

  26. It diverts from important things. Example: DEA spends billions of $$'s to imprison folks in S.E. Asia. Just one of tens of thousands of examples: a 23 yr old man got caught with half a speed pill in his pocket. 1st offense. He got sentenced to 23 yrs hard time. My upcoming book: '1 Pill = 28 Years' articulates how DEA is destroying families worldwide.

  27. They want people at the NOAA to sacrifice their jobs by telling the truth. It is obvious that people have to play along to keep their jobs, and the news media should not try to force them to lose their jobs by disagreeing with Trump in any way. This is an unimportant controversy. There are real big controversies every day, but they get stuck on these meaningless ones.

  28. Who is the President's OFFICIAL INFORMER in these matters???… NOAA or National Weather Center???… The Most Major factor to consider yet never mentioned in this report… Why Not?… Granny

  29. Expect firings, demotions and reprisals at the National Weather Bureau and funding cuts .. there's no limit to trump spiteful vengeance!

  30. I think it was the Washington Post that said "dorian was late". I didn't know Dorian was WRONG and didn't keep the schedule that the Washington Post provided for 'her'.

  31. It’s now obvious, trump is flailing and he is failing. The man is overwhelmed by the ponderousness of the office he holds and is clearly inept and unfit for the presidency.

  32. TRUMP lies about or is grossly ignorant of ALL ISSUES he addresses. TRUMP COWARD-IN-CHIEF tweets and speaks like an elementary school playground BULLY WHO DEMEANS, DENIGRATES, AND DISRESPECTS anyone who doesn't give him what he wants. TRUMP flesh bag of filth and garbage cares only about TRUMP, and you idiots that voted for TRUMP LIAR-IN-CHIEF got suckered and used by TRUMP NARCISSISTIC PILE OF STENCH. TRUMP is TRASH!!!

  33. a rear admirial covers trumps butt,then trump steals from our military.seems the donalds not the only traitor.if trump could just shut up,it would have passed,but not little donnie,his two year old mentality will show its self everytime.

  34. "Blistering mind-numbingly stupid" (trump) as stated by the last commentator is exactly correct. Now he has 2 Agencies feuding over his mistake is just 🤯🤯🤬🤬🤬

  35. Every single utterance that blurts forth from the bellicose belligerence in chief is a lie… every single word is a lie… his father would be so proud… distraction from the fact that he has emptied the government in preparation for trumped up martial law to IRAN timed coincide 2020

  36. I doubt if I'll ever use NOAA again. I once respected them, but after backing Trump's false projections, I think they have lost all credibility!
    If you support him, that's one thing, I can at least understand that. But to make up false data for him, that goes beyond 'reasonable'.
    I encourage everyone to stop using them, they can't be trusted at this point!

  37. The wicked web of lies has been woven by trump. It's time for the hallow man to face reality. He is the one he is trapping in his own web.

  38. tRump is now selling black markers on his campaign website…..anything to make a dime for his pocket. He acts like a 5 year old throwing a tantrum

  39. That bloody Wall that #45 is so obsessed with. Over $ 3 billion for just 175 miles. And where is the $$$ coming from ? Military bases that urgently need upgrading (barracks, runways, hangers, schools, etc). But the real 'kick in the balls' is $400 million redirected from the Puerto Rico rebuilding fund. So much for MAGA !!!

  40. Wow hey MSN I have a pic from you showing it going over Alabama. . You mite want to look at your own reports. LMAO ROTF. YOU POSTED IT.

  41. NOAA is part of the Dept. of Commerce, which is under the control of Wilbur Ross, so the press or Congress might want to start with asking him.

  42. The old slow national waste cannot even keep up with the weather forecast, let alone the weather itself. Horrible mixture of senility ad power on full display. Somebody enlighten this bird-brained mass that he has lot bigger crimes to worry about than a mistake of announcing days old news – poor guy can't handle his real personal problems, so focuses on his own irrelevant misinformation

  43. I'll never believe NOAA again after their spineless (and anonymous) leadership decided it was better to lick Trump's balls than stick with the truth. It annoys me that the Republican slime are willing to destroy our Democracy but it really annoys me that they're using my money to do it.

  44. Let me get this straight ; The New York Times , Washington Post MSNBC are suggesting that the NOAA and a Rear Admiral in the US Navy and the President of the United States of America are liars because the media doesn't agree that they at the time had a legitimate concern….So the news media claims it knows best over the people in charge of our navel vessels that could be impacted from a hurricane ….. Glad you journalist geniuses clowns are in charge now I feel real safe ….

  45. Wonder why they didn't show the statement from the Navy? They would of had to be preparing to move ships out of harbor that were in the storms path and inform the Commander in Chief ….. NOAA and the Navy information outweighs the media and their reporters ….

  46. For all this punditry, Trump still does largely what he wants. Action is needed, but our beloved Democrats won't DO anything. They want power, screw the country.

  47. As the "top official" mindless anonymous fux from noaa go into cya mode, the Chosen One shows off his "off the charts" emotional need to be right.

  48. Dummies keep harping on the NOAA hurricane map that turned out to become outdated. This Fake News keeps going on for almost a week now. Get a life!

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