Trump Ends Automatic Citizenship For Some Military Kids Overseas | Velshi & Ruhle | MSNBC


♪ Liberty, Liberty, Liberty, Liberty ♪ Liberty, Liberty ♪>>>A NEW IMMIGRATION>>>A NEW IMMIGRATION CONTROVERSY THIS MORNING AFTER CONTROVERSY THIS MORNING AFTER THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION ISSUED THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION ISSUED A RULE THAT ENDS AUTOMATIC A RULE THAT ENDS AUTOMATIC CITIZENSHIP FOR CHILDREN BORN CITIZENSHIP FOR CHILDREN BORN OVERSEAS TO SOME AMERICAN OVERSEAS TO SOME AMERICAN PARENTS WHO ARE SERVING IN THE PARENTS WHO ARE SERVING IN THE MILITARY OR WORKING FOR THE MILITARY OR WORKING FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. THE RULE CHANGE STIRRED THE RULE CHANGE STIRRED WIDESPREAD CONFUSION AND FEARS WIDESPREAD CONFUSION AND FEARS THAT FEDERAL EMPLOYEES AND THAT FEDERAL EMPLOYEES AND MILITARY, INCLUDING THOSE MILITARY, INCLUDING THOSE DEPLOYED TO MILITARY BASES OR DEPLOYED TO MILITARY BASES OR DANGEROUS COUNTRIES MIGHT NOT DANGEROUS COUNTRIES MIGHT NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO PROTECT HAVE THE ABILITY TO PROTECT THEIR OWN CHILDREN. THEIR OWN CHILDREN. HERE’S WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION HERE’S WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION SAYS. SAYS. QUOTE, THE NEW RULES APPLY TO QUOTE, THE NEW RULES APPLY TO CHILDREN WHO WERE NOT BORN AS CHILDREN WHO WERE NOT BORN AS CITIZENS SUCH AS THOSE WHO WERE CITIZENS SUCH AS THOSE WHO WERE BORN TO NONCITIZENS AND LATER BORN TO NONCITIZENS AND LATER ADOPTED BY U.S. CITIZENS SERVING ADOPTED BY U.S. CITIZENS SERVING ABROAD OR IN CASES WHERE PARENTS ABROAD OR IN CASES WHERE PARENTS WHO WERE NOT CITIZENS AT THE WHO WERE NOT CITIZENS AT THE TIME OF THE CHILD’S BIRTH WERE TIME OF THE CHILD’S BIRTH WERE LATER NATURALIZED. LATER NATURALIZED. PARENTS WILL HAVE TO APPLY FOR PARENTS WILL HAVE TO APPLY FOR THEIR CHILDREN’S CITIZENSHIP AND THEIR CHILDREN’S CITIZENSHIP AND PROVE THEY MEET LEGAL PROVE THEY MEET LEGAL REQUIREMENTS BEFORE THEIR REQUIREMENTS BEFORE THEIR CHILD’S 18th BIRTHDAY. CHILD’S 18th BIRTHDAY. ACTING IMMIGRATION DIRECTOR KEN ACTING IMMIGRATION DIRECTOR KEN CUCCINELLI TOOK TO TWITTER, HIS CUCCINELLI TOOK TO TWITTER, HIS CLARIFICATION SAYING, THE HIGHLY CLARIFICATION SAYING, THE HIGHLY TECHNICAL POLICY MANUAL USED BY TECHNICAL POLICY MANUAL USED BY CAREER EMPLOYEES HERE AS A CAREER EMPLOYEES HERE AS A REFERENCE WAS UPDATED TODAY TO REFERENCE WAS UPDATED TODAY TO CONFORM TO USCIS PRACTICES WITH CONFORM TO USCIS PRACTICES WITH THE STATE DEPARTMENT. THE STATE DEPARTMENT. THAT’S IT. THAT’S IT. BUT SOME PEOPLE ARE FREAKING OUT BUT SOME PEOPLE ARE FREAKING OUT OVER NOTHING. OVER NOTHING. BACK WITH ME, CHRIS LU WHO BACK WITH ME, CHRIS LU WHO SERVED IN THE OBAMA SERVED IN THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION AS ASSISTANT TO ADMINISTRATION AS ASSISTANT TO THE PRESIDENT AND WHITE HOUSE THE PRESIDENT AND WHITE HOUSE CABINET SECRETARY. CABINET SECRETARY. HE IS ALSO AN ADVISER TO STEVE HE IS ALSO AN ADVISER TO STEVE BULLOCK’S PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN. BULLOCK’S PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN. MATT WELCH IS EDITOR AT LARGE MATT WELCH IS EDITOR AT LARGE FOR “REASON” A LIBERTARIAN FOR “REASON” A LIBERTARIAN MONTHLY MAGAZINE AND JOINING US MONTHLY MAGAZINE AND JOINING US OUR MSNBC LEGAL ANALYST. OUR MSNBC LEGAL ANALYST. CHRIS, ARE WE FREAKING OUT OVER CHRIS, ARE WE FREAKING OUT OVER NOTHING? NOTHING?>>WELL, LOOK.>>WELL, LOOK. THIS IS A PRESIDENT WHO HAS BEEN THIS IS A PRESIDENT WHO HAS BEEN ON A TEAR LATELY ON IMMIGRATION ON A TEAR LATELY ON IMMIGRATION AND WHO IS, YOU KNOW, MAKING IT AND WHO IS, YOU KNOW, MAKING IT OBVIOUSLY VERY CHALLENGING FOR OBVIOUSLY VERY CHALLENGING FOR PEOPLE AT THE SOUTHERN BORDER. PEOPLE AT THE SOUTHERN BORDER. HE’S GOT HIS PUBLIC CHARGE RULE. HE’S GOT HIS PUBLIC CHARGE RULE. THIS ONE IS BAFFLING. THIS ONE IS BAFFLING. WHY YOU WOULD PUT ADDITIONAL WHY YOU WOULD PUT ADDITIONAL HURDLES IN FRONT OF SERVICE HURDLES IN FRONT OF SERVICE MEMBERS, U.S. DIPLOMATS, FEDERAL MEMBERS, U.S. DIPLOMATS, FEDERAL EMPLOYEES WHO ARE SERVING EMPLOYEES WHO ARE SERVING OVERSEAS OFTEN NOT AT THEIR OWN OVERSEAS OFTEN NOT AT THEIR OWN CHOOSING FOR REALLY NO REASON IS CHOOSING FOR REALLY NO REASON IS BAFFLING. BAFFLING. THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE SERVING THE PUBLIC INTEREST. SERVING THE PUBLIC INTEREST. AND AGAIN, WE CAN QUIBBLE ABOUT AND AGAIN, WE CAN QUIBBLE ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE INVOLVED HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE INVOLVED HERE. HERE. BUT THE MESSAGE THIS SENDS TO BUT THE MESSAGE THIS SENDS TO PEOPLE WHO ARE SACRIFICING THEIR PEOPLE WHO ARE SACRIFICING THEIR COUNTRY IS A REALLY BAD ONE. COUNTRY IS A REALLY BAD ONE. PARTICULARLY FOR A PRESIDENT WHO PARTICULARLY FOR A PRESIDENT WHO CONTINUALLY PROFESSES TO BE SO CONTINUALLY PROFESSES TO BE SO PRO MILITARY. PRO MILITARY. AGAIN, YOU HAVE TO PUT THIS IN A AGAIN, YOU HAVE TO PUT THIS IN A BROADER CONTEXT. BROADER CONTEXT. THIS IS A PRESIDENT WHO THIS IS A PRESIDENT WHO EXPRESSED A DESIRE TO GET RID OF EXPRESSED A DESIRE TO GET RID OF BIRTH RIGHT CITIZENSHIP AND THIS BIRTH RIGHT CITIZENSHIP AND THIS SEEMS DANGEROUSLY LIKE WE’RE SEEMS DANGEROUSLY LIKE WE’RE HEADING IN THAT DIRECTION. HEADING IN THAT DIRECTION.>>I WANT TO TALK TO YOU, DANNY,>>I WANT TO TALK TO YOU, DANNY, ABOUT THIS AS A PERSONAL ISSUE. ABOUT THIS AS A PERSONAL ISSUE. YOU WERE BORN ABROAD. YOU WERE BORN ABROAD. IS YOUR DAD IN THE MILITARY? IS YOUR DAD IN THE MILITARY? RIGHT? RIGHT?>>FATHER IN THE MILITARY.>>FATHER IN THE MILITARY. NATURALIZED CITIZEN, BORN TO NATURALIZED CITIZEN, BORN TO U.S. CITIZENS ABROAD IN JAPAN, U.S. CITIZENS ABROAD IN JAPAN, SO IT’S ALMOST — SO IT’S ALMOST –>>YOU’D BE FINE UNDER THE NEW>>YOU’D BE FINE UNDER THE NEW RULES IF THESE RULES WERE IN RULES IF THESE RULES WERE IN EFFECT WHEN YOU WERE BORN? EFFECT WHEN YOU WERE BORN?>>YES, BARELY, BECAUSE MY>>YES, BARELY, BECAUSE MY CITIZENSHIP COMES ACTUALLY FROM CITIZENSHIP COMES ACTUALLY FROM A COUPLE DIFFERENT PLACES. A COUPLE DIFFERENT PLACES. BECAUSE I WAS IMMEDIATELY A BECAUSE I WAS IMMEDIATELY A CITIZEN WHEN BORN TO U.S. CITIZEN WHEN BORN TO U.S. CITIZENS THIS ONE WOULD NOT CITIZENS THIS ONE WOULD NOT AFFECT ME. AFFECT ME. THIS AFFECTS FOLKS NOT CITIZENS THIS AFFECTS FOLKS NOT CITIZENS WHEN THEY ARE BORN WHO ARE AS WE WHEN THEY ARE BORN WHO ARE AS WE SAID LATER ADOPTED. SAID LATER ADOPTED. THIS IS A VERY NARROW CLASS OF THIS IS A VERY NARROW CLASS OF FOLKS WHO ARE ACTUALLY AFFECTED. FOLKS WHO ARE ACTUALLY AFFECTED. YOU KNOW, TO ALL OF THOSE YOU KNOW, TO ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE, KEEP IN MIND THAT MY PEOPLE, KEEP IN MIND THAT MY CITIZENSHIP IS A CREATION OF CITIZENSHIP IS A CREATION OF FEDERAL STATUTE. FEDERAL STATUTE. IT IS NOT CONSTITUTIONAL. IT IS NOT CONSTITUTIONAL. CONGRESS GIVETH AND CONGRESS CAN CONGRESS GIVETH AND CONGRESS CAN TAKETH AWAY IF IT SO CHOOSES. TAKETH AWAY IF IT SO CHOOSES.>>SO, LOOK.>>SO, LOOK. THERE IS — THERE IS AN ARGUMENT THERE IS — THERE IS AN ARGUMENT THAT THE ADMINISTRATION IS THAT THE ADMINISTRATION IS MAKING, MATT. MAKING, MATT. THEY SAY IT IS REALLY ABOUT THEY SAY IT IS REALLY ABOUT KEEPING THE REGULATIONS WITHIN KEEPING THE REGULATIONS WITHIN LAW. LAW. YOU HEARD THE STATEMENT THAT YOU HEARD THE STATEMENT THAT THEY SAID. THEY SAID. THIS IS AN UPDATE, KIND OF A THIS IS AN UPDATE, KIND OF A CLARIFICATION TO MAKE SURE WE’RE CLARIFICATION TO MAKE SURE WE’RE FOLLOWING THE LETTER OF THE LAW. FOLLOWING THE LETTER OF THE LAW. YOU COULD CERTAINLY POINT OUT A YOU COULD CERTAINLY POINT OUT A LOT OF INSTANCES WHERE THAT HAS LOT OF INSTANCES WHERE THAT HAS NOT SEEMED TO BE THE NUMBER ONE NOT SEEMED TO BE THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY OF THIS ADMINISTRATION PRIORITY OF THIS ADMINISTRATION BUT SHOULD WE TAKE IT AT FACE BUT SHOULD WE TAKE IT AT FACE VALUE? VALUE? IS THAT WHAT’S REALLY GOING ON? IS THAT WHAT’S REALLY GOING ON?>>NO.>>NO. WE SHOULD NOT. WE SHOULD NOT. IF THEY’RE INTERESTED IN KEEPING IF THEY’RE INTERESTED IN KEEPING THINGS WITHIN THE LETTER OF THE THINGS WITHIN THE LETTER OF THE LAW THEY WOULDN’T BE TALKING LAW THEY WOULDN’T BE TALKING ABOUT FLOATING EVERY SIX MONTHS ABOUT FLOATING EVERY SIX MONTHS OR SO, ENDING BIRTH RIGHT OR SO, ENDING BIRTH RIGHT CITIZENSHIP. CITIZENSHIP. THAT IS IN THE 14th AMENDMENT THAT IS IN THE 14th AMENDMENT NOT JUST SOME RANDOM LAW. NOT JUST SOME RANDOM LAW. THAT IS IN THE CONSTITUTION, THAT IS IN THE CONSTITUTION, RIGHT? RIGHT? THEY’RE LOOKING ACTIVELY FOR THEY’RE LOOKING ACTIVELY FOR WAYS TO HAPPEN AND DONALD TRUMP WAYS TO HAPPEN AND DONALD TRUMP CAMPAIGNED AGAINST — CAMPAIGNED AGAINST –>>SO IS THIS CHIP, CHIP, CHIP?>>SO IS THIS CHIP, CHIP, CHIP?>>OF COURSE IT IS.>>OF COURSE IT IS. DONALD TRUMP CAMPAIGNED ON DONALD TRUMP CAMPAIGNED ON DEPORTING 4 MILLION AMERICAN DEPORTING 4 MILLION AMERICAN U.S. CITIZENS WHO WERE CHILDREN U.S. CITIZENS WHO WERE CHILDREN OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. OH, WE OUGHT TO BE TOUGH WITH OH, WE OUGHT TO BE TOUGH WITH THE FAMILIES. THE FAMILIES. HE WANTED TO SEND AWAY SYRIAN HE WANTED TO SEND AWAY SYRIAN REFUGEES WHO ALREADY HAD BEEN REFUGEES WHO ALREADY HAD BEEN ADMITTED. ADMITTED. ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS HE DID ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS HE DID AS PRESIDENT WAS THE TRAVEL BAN. AS PRESIDENT WAS THE TRAVEL BAN. OKAY. OKAY. YOU JUST CAN’T COME IN. YOU JUST CAN’T COME IN. HE’S BEEN BLOCKING OFF REFUGEES. HE’S BEEN BLOCKING OFF REFUGEES. THEY’VE BEEN PINCHING OFF THEY’VE BEEN PINCHING OFF CITIZENSHIP, ADDING NEW RULES TO CITIZENSHIP, ADDING NEW RULES TO THE KIND OF PEOPLE WHO CAN COME THE KIND OF PEOPLE WHO CAN COME HERE. HERE. ARE THEY GOING TO BE PUBLIC ARE THEY GOING TO BE PUBLIC CHARGES? CHARGES? POTENTIALLY IN THE FUTURE? POTENTIALLY IN THE FUTURE? THIS IS WHO HE IS. THIS IS WHO HE IS. THIS IS WHO THE ADMINISTRATION THIS IS WHO THE ADMINISTRATION IS. IS. WE SHOULD NEVER GIVE ANY WE SHOULD NEVER GIVE ANY ADMINISTRATION THE BENEFIT OF ADMINISTRATION THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT BUT WE CERTAINLY THE DOUBT BUT WE CERTAINLY SHOULDN’T GIVE THIS SHOULDN’T GIVE THIS ADMINISTRATION ANY BENEFIT OF ADMINISTRATION ANY BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT WHEN IT COMES TO THE DOUBT WHEN IT COMES TO CITIZENSHIP RULES AT ALL. CITIZENSHIP RULES AT ALL.>>IN FACT, CHRIS, AS YOU WELL>>IN FACT, CHRIS, AS YOU WELL KNOW THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION KNOW THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION HAS CRACKED DOWN ON IMMIGRANTS HAS CRACKED DOWN ON IMMIGRANTS IN THE MILITARY, ALL BUT IN THE MILITARY, ALL BUT SHUTTERING A PROGRAM THAT SHUTTERING A PROGRAM THAT RECRUITED IMMIGRANTS WITH RECRUITED IMMIGRANTS WITH LANGUAGE SKILLS THAT WE NEED, LANGUAGE SKILLS THAT WE NEED, MEDICAL ABILITIES, EXPELLING MEDICAL ABILITIES, EXPELLING SOME RECRUITS BECAUSE OF THEIR SOME RECRUITS BECAUSE OF THEIR FAMILY BACKGROUNDS. FAMILY BACKGROUNDS. DOES THIS RULE KEEPING KIDS OF DOES THIS RULE KEEPING KIDS OF PEOPLE WHO SERVED IN THEIR PEOPLE WHO SERVED IN THEIR COUNTRY FROM AUTOMATIC COUNTRY FROM AUTOMATIC CITIZENSHIP MAKE US SAFER? CITIZENSHIP MAKE US SAFER? I MEAN, HOW CAN YOU LOOK AT THIS I MEAN, HOW CAN YOU LOOK AT THIS AND SAY, THIS IS HELPFUL. AND SAY, THIS IS HELPFUL. THIS IS USEFUL? THIS IS USEFUL?>>THIS IS BOTH ANTI-IMMIGRANT>>THIS IS BOTH ANTI-IMMIGRANT AND ALSO ANTIMILITARY. AND ALSO ANTIMILITARY. AS YOU JUST SAID, THIS AS YOU JUST SAID, THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS MADE IT ADMINISTRATION HAS MADE IT HARDER FOR IMMIGRANTS WHO HAVE HARDER FOR IMMIGRANTS WHO HAVE VALUABLE LANGUAGE AND TECHNICAL VALUABLE LANGUAGE AND TECHNICAL SKILLS TO SERVE IN THE MILITARY. SKILLS TO SERVE IN THE MILITARY. IT’S ALSO — THIS ADMINISTRATION IT’S ALSO — THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS ALSO MOVED TO DEPORT AN HAS ALSO MOVED TO DEPORT AN UNKNOWN NUMBER OF FORMER SERVICE UNKNOWN NUMBER OF FORMER SERVICE MEMBERS WHO ARE UNDOCUMENTED AND MEMBERS WHO ARE UNDOCUMENTED AND NBC’S OWN REPORTING THIS WEEK NBC’S OWN REPORTING THIS WEEK FOUND THERE ARE TENS OF FOUND THERE ARE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF IRAQI PERSONNEL WHO THOUSANDS OF IRAQI PERSONNEL WHO HELPED THE U.S. MILITARY EFFORT HELPED THE U.S. MILITARY EFFORT WHO ARE BEING DENIED VISAS TO WHO ARE BEING DENIED VISAS TO COME INTO THE UNITED STATES AND COME INTO THE UNITED STATES AND THEY FACE PERSECUTION IN THEIR THEY FACE PERSECUTION IN THEIR OWN COUNTRIES. OWN COUNTRIES. ONLY TWO ROIKIRAQI TRANSLATORS H ONLY TWO ROIKIRAQI TRANSLATORS H BEEN ADMITTED TO THE COUNTRY BEEN ADMITTED TO THE COUNTRY OVER THE PAST YEAR NOT WITH OVER THE PAST YEAR NOT WITH STANDING HELPING THE U.S. STANDING HELPING THE U.S. MILITARY. MILITARY. FOR A PRESIDENT WHO PROFESSES TO FOR A PRESIDENT WHO PROFESSES TO BE PRO MILITARY THESE STEPS BE PRO MILITARY THESE STEPS COMBINED ARE ANTIMILITARY. COMBINED ARE ANTIMILITARY.>>THERE IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF>>THERE IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF HOW DIVISIVE THE IMMIGRATION HAS HOW DIVISIVE THE IMMIGRATION HAS BECOME, COMING FROM FOX NEWS BECOME, COMING FROM FOX NEWS REPORTING. REPORTING. THEY SAY THE DEPARTMENT OF THEY SAY THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY IS BARRING HOMELAND SECURITY IS BARRING DEMOCRATIC STAFFERS FROM THE DEMOCRATIC STAFFERS FROM THE HOUSE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE FROM HOUSE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE FROM VISITING CUSTOMS AND BORDER VISITING CUSTOMS AND BORDER PROTECTION FACILITIES AT THE PROTECTION FACILITIES AT THE U.S./MEXICAN BORDER. U.S./MEXICAN BORDER. COMMITTEE STAFF WERE ALLEGEDLY COMMITTEE STAFF WERE ALLEGEDLY DISRUPTIVE AND REFUSED TO FOLLOW DISRUPTIVE AND REFUSED TO FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS DURING THEIR LAST INSTRUCTIONS DURING THEIR LAST TRIP IS WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION TRIP IS WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION IS SAYING. IS SAYING. DHS OFFICIALLY IS SAYING, THIS DHS OFFICIALLY IS SAYING, THIS IS AN OPERATIONAL BURDEN. IS AN OPERATIONAL BURDEN. DEMOCRATS SAY, LOOK. DEMOCRATS SAY, LOOK. THESE ARE JUST BEING NIXED THESE ARE JUST BEING NIXED BECAUSE THEY’RE LEARNING THINGS BECAUSE THEY’RE LEARNING THINGS ABOUT HOW DETAINEES ARE BEING ABOUT HOW DETAINEES ARE BEING TREATED AND THE RULES ARE BEING TREATED AND THE RULES ARE BEING BROKEN ABOUT HOW LONG AND HOW BROKEN ABOUT HOW LONG AND HOW YOU CAN HOLD DETAINEES. YOU CAN HOLD DETAINEES. WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON HERE? WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON HERE?>>I THINK IT’S A DISDAIN FOR>>I THINK IT’S A DISDAIN FOR ANY KIND OF OVERSIGHT FOR THEIR ANY KIND OF OVERSIGHT FOR THEIR ACTIVITIES. ACTIVITIES. AS THIS GETS MORE POLARIZED AND

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